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IdahoBengalsFan says:

There have been 4 Giants in the history of Wrestling more specifically the WWF/WWE. They are Andre the Giant, Giant Gonzalez, The Big Show, and The Great Khali. I'm going to pick Andre.
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im going to pick giant gonzalez

Giant Gonzalez

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you were better off with The Big Show. Okay Andre the Giant had a full career in wrestling. He was known as the 8th wonder of the world. Giant Gonzalez was tombstoned by the Undertaker. He had a very shortlived career in wrestling at least the WWF anyways. But at least you had the stones to pick against Andre the Giant.

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Andre the Giant is also a WWF/WWE Hall of Famer, Giant Gonzalez will never be in the Hall of Fame.

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OfflineDino301 says... on 1/4/08
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I don't even know who two of those people are. I recognize Big Show because of his highly publicized "fight" with Floyd Mayweather, and Andre the Giant's a legend.

OnlineGR81 says... on 1/4/08
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Big show got knocked out by a guy one-third his size so that rules him out.

Andre > everyone else listed combined

Offlineindy supercolt says... on 2/4/08
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there's more giants then that...........hell, id consider "the undertaker" a giant

"earthquake" was a pretty tall fat mamba jamba......id say close to 7' foot

kevin nash / diesel is well over 7' foot

Offlineindy supercolt says... on 2/4/08
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but it doent matter......because andre was the best giant to ever wrestle

Offlinehcw says... on 2/4/08
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I would go with andre.
Kahli can't wrestle they just have him in there because he is big

OfflineIdahoBengalsFan says... on 2/4/08
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Kevin Nash, Kane, Undertaker, yes they are tall but they were never billed as a Giant. Remember Big Show in wCw was first known as The Giant. Earthquake looked up to Andre all he had was fat he wouldn't qualify as a Giant. You have to be 7ft or taller to be a Giant

OfflineIdahoBengalsFan says... on 3/4/08
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Professional Wrestling Career (1973-1992)

Face run (1973-1987)

On March 26, 1973, André made his WWF debut as a "face," short for babyface or "good guy", defeating Buddy Wolfe in New York's Madison Square Garden.

He was billed early in his career at a height of 7ft 3in; this was enlarged in the early 1970s to 7 ftm 4in and then 7ft 5in . Wepner's manager said André made the 6 ft 5½ in Wepner look like a baby, dwarfed beside André. 2024 m) and sometimes 7 ft 5 in (2.26 m) with a weight that ranged from 309 lb (140 kg) to 550 lb (249 kg). His actual height is contested, and there has been much speculation and debate over the issue. Jim Duggan and Bobby Heenan maintain that his kayfabe height was correct. Meltzer estimated André at 6 feet 11½ inches (2.12 m) when comparing him to fellow Conan the Destroyer star Wilt Chamberlain in 1984. However, Mike Mooneyham, another wrestling journalist, maintained in his obituary of André in 1994 that André was 7 feet 2 inches when he began wrestling. The exaggeration of his height probably comes from the fact that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the tallest renowned athlete in the world at the time at 7 feet 2 inches (2.19 m), and promoters wanted to bill André as the biggest athlete in the world. Nevertheless, the sight of him alone was enough to draw huge crowds during a time when there were only a handful of wrestlers over 6 feet 6 inches (1.98 m); his condition, which included symptoms such as enlarged hands and feet and exaggerated facial features (acromegaly), likely aided the visual perception of him appearing larger than he actually was. André also had an abnormally large wrist, at 13", which is indicative of overall bone structure. Back surgeries and posture problems later in life also contributed to his decrease in height.

He branched out into acting in the 1970s and 1980s, playing a Sasquatch ("Bigfoot") on the 1970s television series The Six Million Dollar Man and the character Fezzik in The Princess Bride. By the time the chairman of the (renamed) World Wrestling Federation, Vincent K. McMahon, began to expand his promotion to the national level in the early 1980s, André wrestled exclusively for WWF in the USA, while still holding international engagements.

He was offered a professional American football contract with the Washington Redskins after a tryout in 1974 and seriously considered it, but turned it down, reasoning that he could make far more money wrestling.

Before being signed to WWF, André had wrestled in Japan. It was here that a doctor diagnosed Roussimoff with his condition and told him that those with the same problem were generally lucky to reach 40 years of age.

André was one of WWF's most beloved "babyfaces" throughout the 1970s and early 1980s, the legend that for 15 years had never lost by pinfall or submission in a WWF ring before being pinned by Hulk Hogan on March 29, 1987 at WrestleMania III. However André actually had lost cleanly in matches outside of the parameters of WWF; a pinfall loss in Mexico to El Canek in 1984 and in Japan a submission loss to Antonio Inoki in 1986, as well as a controversial no-contest finish against Akira Maeda, who used heel shoot-style tactics, breaking kayfabe to nullify André's considerable size advantage. He also went sixty-minute time limit draws with the two other major world champions of the day, Harley Race and Nick Bockwinkel.

André had memorable clashes all over the world with a variety of tough, rugged opponents. Among his chief rivals in the ring: The Sheik (who gained a deathmatch win over the Frenchman in 1974 with the help of his fireball), Abdullah the Butcher, Stan Hansen, Ernie Ladd, and a young Hulk Hogan, who first met André in 1978 during his rookie years in the deep South. Hogan and André would go on to have one of the great WWF feuds of 1980, peaking in front of 36,295 fans at the Showdown at Shea event on August 9, 1980 in Flushing, New York's Shea Stadium.

One of André's most bitter feuds pitted him against the Mongolian terror Killer Khan, who was managed by Fred Blassie. According to the storyline, Khan had broken André's ankle during a match in Rochester, New York by leaping off the top rope and crashing down upon it with his knee-drop. After a stay at Beth-Israel Hospital in Boston, André returned with payback on his mind. On November 14, 1981 at the Philadelphia Spectrum, André exacted revenge by destroying Killer Khan in what was billed as a "Mongolian Stretcher Match", in which the loser must be taken to the dressing room on a stretcher. In reality, André had snapped his ankle getting out of bed one morning. The injury and subsequent rehabilitation was worked into the existing André/Khan storyline.

Another memorable André feud involved a man who considered himself to be "the true giant" of wrestling: the 6 ft 10 in, 364 lb (165 kg) Big John Studd. Throughout the early to mid-1980s, André and Studd fought all over the world, battling to try and determine who the real giant of wrestling was. In December 1984, Studd took the feud to a new level, when he and partner Ken Patera knocked out André during a televised tag team match and proceeded to cut off André's famous long locks (Big Show, Kurt Angle, Mark Jindrak, and Luther Reigns would duplicate the angle nearly 20 years later). André had the last laugh at the first WrestleMania on March 31, 1985 at Madison Square Garden. André conquered Studd in a $15,000 Body-slam Challenge. After slamming Studd, he attempted to give the $15,000 prize to the fans, before having the bag stolen from him by his future manager Bobby "The Brain" Heenan.

The following year, at WrestleMania 2 (April 7, 1986), André continued to display his dominance by winning a twenty-man battle royal that featured top NFL stars and wrestlers. André last eliminated Bret Hart to win the contest.

Afterwards, André continued his feud with Studd and King Kong Bundy. André was suspended after a no-show; he returned under a mask as "The Giant Machine" part of a team with "Big Machine" (Robert Windham) and "Super Machine" (Bill Eadie). (The Machines gimmick was copied from New Japan Pro Wrestling character "Super Strong Machine", played by Japanese wrestler Junji Hirata.) Soon afterwards, Giant Machine disappeared, and André was reinstated, to the approval of Bobby "The Brain" Heenan.

Heel run (1987-1990) and later years

Feud with Hulk Hogan

André's image was turned to that of a villainous heel in 1987 so that he could face Hulk Hogan for the WWF Championship in the main event of WrestleMania 3. In early 1987, Hogan was presented a trophy for being the WWF World Heavyweight Champion for three years. André came out to congratulate him. Shortly afterwards, André was presented a slightly smaller trophy for being "undefeated in WWF for fifteen years." In actuality, André had suffered a handful of countout and disqualification losses in WWF but had never been pinned or forced to submit in a WWF ring. Hogan came out to congratulate André and ended up being the focal point of the interview. A visibly annoyed André walked out in the midst of Hogan's speech. Then, on an edition of "Piper's Pit", Hogan was confronted by Heenan. Heenan announced that his new protege was André. André then challenged Hogan to a title match at WrestleMania III, ripping the t-shirt and crucifix from Hogan.

It was at WrestleMania III that the public first really saw the pain that André was going through. By this stage he weighed in at about 560 pounds, and his bones and joints were finding it hard supporting such a huge weight. After recent back surgery, he was also wearing a brace underneath his wrestling singlet. Hogan won the match after dropping André with a body slam, followed by Hogan's running leg drop finisher. (Years later, Hogan stated that André was so heavy, he felt more like 700 pounds, and that he actually tore his lateral muscle slamming him.) Another famous tall-tale about the match is that "no one knew" if André would lose the match. While mostly false, WWE owner Vince McMahon has stated in the past that he believed if Hogan had either purposely or accidentally disrespected André that night, there was no way André would have allowed Hogan to win the match, no matter what had been agreed to. Aside from that possibility, André had agreed to lose the match some time before, mostly for health reasons, though he almost pinned Hogan (albeit unintentionally) in the early goings of the match.

The Hogan-André face off at WrestleMania III was likely the most highly anticipated professional wrestling matchup in history - the apex of wrestling's most recent golden era. The event, held at the Pontiac Silverdome, had millions watching on pay-per-view and established great permanent value in the WrestleMania franchise. A reported 93,173 fans turned out as the WWF sold many standing room only tickets and added seats in the alleys to exceed the Silverdome's capacity of 80,331. Hogan defeated André in what some consider a passing of the torch from André, wrestling's biggest star of the 70s, to Hogan, wrestling's biggest star of the 80s.

The feud between André and Hogan simmered during the summer of 1987, even as Roussimoff's health declined. The feud would begin heating up again when each wrestler was named the captain of rival teams at the inaugral Survivor Series event. Hogan was counted out, and André would go on to be the sole survivor of the match (pinning Bam Bam Bigelow).

In the meantime, "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase failed to persuade Hogan to sell him the WWF World Championship. After failing to defeat Hogan in a subsequent series of matches, DiBiase turned to André to win it for him. Acting as his hired gun, André won the WWF title from Hogan on February 5, 1988 in a match where it was later revealed appointed referee Dave Hebner was "detained backstage", and a replacement who DiBiase paid to get plastic surgery to look like Dave (in reality, his twin brother Earl Hebner), made a three count on Hogan while his shoulders were off the mat. After winning, André "sold" the title to DiBiase, which transaction was declared invalid by then- WWF President Jack Tunney and the title was vacated. This was shown on WWF's NBC program The Main Event (usually seen Saturdays as Saturday Night's Main Event). André famously mistakenly called the WWF Championship the "WWF Tag Team Championship", perhaps foreshadowing his reign with Haku.

At WrestleMania IV, André and Hulk Hogan fought to a double disqualification in a WWF title tournament match (with the idea in the storyline saying that André was again working on DiBiase's behalf in giving DiBiase a clearer path in the tournament). Afterwards, André and Hogan's feud died down after a brutal steel cage match held at WrestleFest on July 31, 1988 in Milwaukee. He and DiBiase also wrestled Hogan and Randy "Macho Man" Savage in the main event of SummerSlam 1988; the DiBiase-André team lost, despite having an apparently favorable referee in Jesse "the Body" Ventura.

Other feuds

During the summer and fall of 1988, André also became involved in a heated feud with "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, and began wrestling Savage for the title.

André's next major feud was against Jake "The Snake" Roberts. In this storyline, it was said André was deathly afraid of snakes, something Roberts exposed on Saturday Night's Main Event when he threw his snake, Damien, on the frightened André; as a result, André suffered a (kayfabe) mild heart attack and vowed revenge. During the next few weeks, Roberts frequently walked to ringside during André's matches, causing him to run from the ring in fright (since he knew what was inside the bag). Throughout their feud (which culminated at WrestleMania V), Roberts constantly used Damien to gain a psychological edge over the much larger and stronger André.

During the late summer and fall of 1989, André engaged in a brief feud with then-Intercontinental champion The Ultimate Warrior, wherein the younger Warrior regularly squashed the aging André. Earlier in 1989, André and the returning Big John Studd reprised their feud, this time with Studd as a face and André as the heel.

André won the World Tag Team Championship with his partner Haku (known collectively as The Colossal Connection) from Demolition on December 13, 1989. Managed by Bobby Heenan, they lost their titles at WrestleMania VI back to Demolition on April 1, 1990. After the match a furious Heenan slapped André, and he responded by knocking Heenan out, much to the delight of the fans. André went into the match as a heel, and left as a face.



Championships and accomplishments

* All-Star Pro-Wrestling

* NWA Australasian Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Ron Miller

* Championship Wrestling from Florida

* NWA Florida Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Dusty Rhodes

* International Pro Wrestling

* IPW World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Michael Nader

* NWA Tri-State

* NWA Tri-State Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Dusty Rhodes

* Stampede Wrestling

* Stampede Wrestling Hall of Fame

* World Wrestling Federation

* WWF Championship (1 time)
* WWF Hall of Fame (Class of 1993) (posthumous) First inductee
* WWF World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Haku

* Pro Wrestling Illustrated

* PWI Most Popular Wrestler of the Year award in 1977
* PWI Match of the Year award in 1981 versus Killer Khan
* PWI Most Popular Wrestler of the Year award in 1982
* PWI Most Hated Wrestler of the Year award in 1988
* PWI Match of the Year award in 1988 versus Hulk Hogan - The Main Event
* PWI Editor's Award in 1993
* PWI ranked him #3 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the "PWI Years" in 2003.

* Wrestling Observer Newsletter

* Feud of the Year in 1981 vs Killer Khan
* Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame (Class of 1996)

* Broadcast Radio

* Inductee into the Wrestling-Radio.com Hall of Fame class of 2007






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Professional Wrestling

World Championship Wrestling

In 1989, Hawks owner Ted Turner offered Gonzales a job as a professional wrestler with another of his ventures, WCW. After a year of training, Gonzales was introduced to fans as El Gigante on May 19, 1990 at the Pay-per-View Capital Combat event. Wearing shorts, he competed as a face, and was billed as being close to eight feet tall (244 cm) (he was actually 7 ft 7 in ), as measured by the Guinness Book of Records in 2000).

Over the next two years, he feuded with Ric Flair over the WCW Title, participated in the 'Chamber Of Horrors' match in 1991, substituting for the injured Barry Windham, and also had a date on TBS with Missy Hyatt. His overall lack of wrestling skills and the English language saw many fans not take to him as intended, however. Later, he gained some popularity and credibility with a cross-promotional stint in the New Japan Pro Wrestling promotion, and then defected to the WWF in 1993.

World Wrestling Federation

Gonzales competed as Giant Gonzalez during his brief WWF tenure as a heel, and was managed by Harvey Wippleman. Gonzalez grew a beard and wore a bizarre and memorable full body suit that consisted of airbrushed muscles with bushy hair attached. He was introduced at Royal Rumble in January 1993, where he quickly overpowered and eliminated Wippleman's nemesis The Undertaker from the rumble match despite not being an official participant. The Undertaker defeated Gonzalez at WrestleMania IX after he and Wippleman knocked Undertaker unconscious using 'chloroform'. After another loss to the Undertaker at Summerslam 1993, Wippleman berated Gonzales, thus ending their relationship and turning Gonzalez pseudo-face.

During this period, Gonzales also made an appearance in an episode of the mainstream television program, Baywatch, in which he wore his signature body suit. He also later appeared in the pilot episode of "Thunder In Paradise", and a couple of episodes of the TV series "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys".

Health and personal issues started to build up behind the scenes, along with general disappointment from management and fans over his progress. Gonzales' final televised match was a battle royal for the vacant Intercontinental Title, which was held on "Monday Night RAW" in September 1993. He quit the company soon after. Giant Gonzalez's subsequent retirement from all wrestling later that year (at 27) was ultimately due to his size, and becoming too unwell to wrestle.

In 2003, Pro Wrestling Illustrated (PWI) ranked him # 498 of the 500 best singles wrestlers during the "PWI Years".

that was going to be my final argument