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Rafael Palmeiro spent some time reflecting before he was inducted into the College Baseball Hall of Fame on Friday in Lubbock, Texas.

Palmeiro's legacy shifted in the summer of 2005. On July 15, he got his 3,000th career hit and joined an exclusive club of players with 3,000 hits and 500 home runs. Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and Eddie Murray are the only other players to have done both. On Aug. 1, Palmeiro found out he had failed a steroids test and was suspended 10 days by Major League Baseball.

"I made a mistake," Palmeiro told ESPN's Pedro Gomez on Friday. "I didn't really understand what I was taking and I paid for it. I paid for it very dearly. Life goes on."

Palmeiro continues to deny knowingly taking performance enhancing drugs.

"I've heard a lot of things out there that are wrong," he said. "People saying I took drugs all my life, I've never touched anything. I worked my butt off my whole career, as a kid, in college, the big leagues, I didn't need anything, I didn't have to cheat at the end of my career, for what? What was I going to gain from it? Whatever I took was tainted, had to have been. There's no other reason unless I got set up.

"What I took was a B-12 [vitamin] that was given to me by a teammate. That's it. That was it."

Before the failed test, while testifying before a House committee with other ballplayers in March 2005, Palmeiro had stated: "I have never used steroids. Period. I don't know how to say it any more clearly than that."

Palmeiro said he has no regrets about his testimony before Congress because he had never taken anything. He hopes the list of 104 players who tested positive in 2003 is released because, "I'm not on the list."

Palmeiro was a three-time first-team All-American at Mississippi State. He was the SEC's first triple crown winner in 1984, when he hit .415 with 29 home runs and 94 RBIs.

Palmeiro a lifetime .288 hitter in the majors played for the Texas Rangers, Chicago Cubs and Baltimore Orioles.

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This gu aint getting to the hall neither is sosa or clemens or cansesco or arod or any of those god damn juicers

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Clemens and Arod will be in the HOF. Canseco never deserved it Sosa could go either way but should be in

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No way should clemens go he took roids and so did arod people who did it should not be in the hall period

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I find it funny you think this is a new problem of that they were only good cus of it. They will and both should be in the HOF. We can rootoff this if you want

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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT....

Handle this in a root-off. lmao

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If this is considered "cheating" and all cheaters should be banned or all people that violated moral rules should be banned the HOF would have like 20 people in it. In ALL sports. I love how people think this is only an MLB problem. Its not that people just dont care when its the NFL

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Its bud selig problem for not deling witht he steriod scandal like he should be ok so do you tihnk rose belongs in fame cuz i sure do.

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Yes so does Shoeless Joe and Bonds and Clemens and all the other greats from the time frame. If you exclude one cus of suspicion then you have to exclude them all and Tony G and Cal Jr or Kerby cant be in the HOF either

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i want bonds in the hall but do you actually think the writers r gonan vote him and do u think Rose will ever get in? also y isnt shoe in the fame?

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Rose yes if the ban is removed. Bonds is a top 3 player of all time. If he doesnt get in the HOF will lose all credibility and no one should care about it at all

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Do you think the bann will ever get removed?

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Probably not anytime soon. After he dies probably like they have done in the past

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what have they done in the past?

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Shoeless Joe isn't in the Hall of Fame since he was part of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox that threw the World Series

Jackson was 1 of 8 Black Sox Players to be banned from baseball

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Im well aware go back and look at that series and tell me he threw it. He would have been the MVP if they won. If he threw that I hope to god he gave them a refund for his .375 average, .563 slugging. Im well aware of baseball history not to mention the fact that in 1920 he came back and played a full year hitting .382 with a .589 slugging with 121 RBI and a 172 OPS+.

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I know all of that, but baseball was convinced that he and his teammates threw the World Series even though I don't think Jackson was involved like baseball said he was

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He didnt but his teammates did. Again look at the stats and if he did I hope he gave a refund

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I've looked at his stats and they do cast doubt that Jackson was trying to throw the World Series but baseball's brass back then didn't see it the way you and I see it today

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Yea its a shame no one has ever actually gone back and looked at it again with an open mind.

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It is but when there isn't anybody advocating for Shoeless Joe to be reinstated than why would baseball go back and look even though they should do it

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I doubt anyone will but you never know maybe a commish in the future will but I agree that it probably will never be looked at since they dont want someone second guessing them in the future either

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True and they don't want to admit that they made a mistake

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Also very true.

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I'm going to keep hoping that someday baseball will go back and look at Jackson's numbers during that World Series and come to the same conclusion that we have about Jackson's lack of involvement in the betting scandal

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Hopefully someone will one day. IMO i think they just lumped him in at the time out of anger for what happened and he was one of their stars so they were looking for scape goats

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You're Probably Right about that

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who did they play in that world series and how idd they find out about the scandal?

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Cus a lot of people on that team did throw that series cus the owner didnt pay them their promised bonus so they took money from mobsters instead. Its one of the big reasons the MLBPA hates that owners. But Shoeless Joe wasnt one he just got lumped in

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the players association hate what owners and what r the other reasons?

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They hate all the owners cus they always try and screw them every chance they get and theirs a long history of it. Hence why every agreement goes to the deadline and why the lockout happened

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The Cincinnati Reds

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Shut up lol

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NTY but they were both of steriods and do you actually think the writers r gonna vote for them meaning bonds sosa mcgwire absolutely not

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Anyone who doesnt vote for Bonds should lose their vote. McGwire never deserved to be in in the first place

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so bonds deserves it but mcgwire doesnt how is that?

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McGwire didnt have a HOF worthy career. All he did was hit homeruns and thats it. Bonds did everything and is a top 3 player of all time

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Baseball would then have to throw Gaylord Perry out of the Hall of Fame since he cheated by throwing spitballs when they weren't allowed

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Among other not to mention guys in the early days that would cut across the infield when umps werent looking and Ty Cobb for spiking people and so on and so on

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True

The Hall of Fame would have very few players enshrined

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As if taking them unknowingly is ok

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