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I heard the Yankees are close to getting Bronson Arroyo (not sure what theyre giving up, or anything else really.) A few things I thought about
1. We currently need a #5 starter, since we have Joba
2. Joba will be in the bullpen in a month, so our rotation will be Sabathia-Burnett-Pettitte-Arroyo-Mitre, unless we move hughes or aceves (more likely) to the rotation.... Maybe the plaoffs we can get cc (who has not been great) to pitch everyday....
3. Next year Arroyo is on the hook for $11 million, but we will have CC-Burnett-Joba-Wang-Hughes, so what are we gonna do with arroyo?
All in all, I think its good were getting a SP because mitre is horrible but this isnt going to work out well in the longterm. We should get a guy who is only on contract for the rest of the Season like washburn, who is better then Arroyo and has as much playoff experience as Arroyo...
1. We currently need a #5 starter, since we have Joba
2. Joba will be in the bullpen in a month, so our rotation will be Sabathia-Burnett-Pettitte-Arroyo-Mitre, unless we move hughes or aceves (more likely) to the rotation.... Maybe the plaoffs we can get cc (who has not been great) to pitch everyday....
3. Next year Arroyo is on the hook for $11 million, but we will have CC-Burnett-Joba-Wang-Hughes, so what are we gonna do with arroyo?
All in all, I think its good were getting a SP because mitre is horrible but this isnt going to work out well in the longterm. We should get a guy who is only on contract for the rest of the Season like washburn, who is better then Arroyo and has as much playoff experience as Arroyo...
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, NY
Mitre can be good. He played 2 games and looked shaky but you have to give him a chance. I much rather got after Cliff Lee than Bronson......
I think mitre has a whip over 2, if he didnt get those double plays yesterday he would have given up more then the 4 runs he did. I understand not getting lee, I rather have joba and hughes...
Mitre isn't horrible
granted he's a quick fix. but he's a cheaper quick fix then arroyo.
I dunno if I agree with this plan... but whatever
granted he's a quick fix. but he's a cheaper quick fix then arroyo.
I dunno if I agree with this plan... but whatever
At this point we are close to the finish line with our goal in close sight. Adding Arroyo is adding like the one possible addition that hurts our chances. It would be a HORRIBLE deal to get him. You will be paying a #5 SP the value of like a #3 pitcher, for horrible results. Mitre's value for his production is way better than Arroyo. Plus with Arroyo you have to give prospects/players up.
Big no and if this team is serious about the WS, then say no to Brandon.
Big no and if this team is serious about the WS, then say no to Brandon.
, NJ
That would be bad.
If you're saying Mitre is horrible then why would you put Joba in the bullpen instead of Mitre.
If you're saying Mitre is horrible then why would you put Joba in the bullpen instead of Mitre.
He's at 102 innings right now with about 10 starts left. You could skip him when you can. If he averages 6 innings per start that's only 162 innings.
Exactly. With off days and such you can skip. Maybe throw Aceves one day or just call up a AAA guy like Nova.
The perfect is coming up. On August 3rd we have an off day. It's also Joba's expected start. Just skip him, then let Pettitte and Mitre go against TOR on the 4th and 5th. Then we have a four day series with BOS where we throw our 4 best pitchers.
Then the same thing goes on the 24th. There is an off day on his expected start. Skip is turn then.
Depending on how we do from here on out, if we are secure in making the playoffs by the end of Sept you can rest him the last week or two or something like that.
Then the same thing goes on the 24th. There is an off day on his expected start. Skip is turn then.
Depending on how we do from here on out, if we are secure in making the playoffs by the end of Sept you can rest him the last week or two or something like that.
That would be a perfect scenario.
That's 2 starts right there.
I think that's pretty obvious, but I think it will be too close to do that.
That's 2 starts right there.
I think that's pretty obvious, but I think it will be too close to do that.
Well the average starter gets 6 starts per month, so 60 innings in 12 starts is 5 innings per start, and 60 innings in 10 starts would be 6 per start. So we would need another starter, because he can make at max really 10 starts before you start killing the bullpen; and you have to take post season innings into account...
You're not seeing the point. The Yankees have 6 off days so they could hypothetically skip him in the rotation 6 times so your 12 starts could easily become 10 starts.
Yeah I know they can make it 10 starts, but Im one of the people who thought joba should always be in the bullpen and replace Mo when he retires. I think hughes is more vauable as a starter then reliever, and joba is a good starter but a great reliever...
, CA
I see this as a bad move.
Arroyo is a fly ball pitcher.
Yankee Stadium plays like a little league park.
See where I'm going?
Arroyo is a fly ball pitcher.
Yankee Stadium plays like a little league park.
See where I'm going?
Lmao! Good luck with that, Arroyo is TERRIBLE. The Brewers scored 9 runs in the 1st inning against him earlier this year. No contender would benefit from having him on their team.
yeah i wasnt saying I like the trade, i think hes more reliable then mitre but i wouldnt trade a single A player for him unless i dont have to pay him next year...
Why is this a good thing? Let's take a magical trip in the stats bus:
In his career he has won double digit wins 5 times in his career, and 9 wins once. He has lost double digit losses 4 times, and 9 losses twice. His career ERA is 4.39, and that's not terrible. What is it this season? 5.21. Looks like things are going up in every way but the good way this year. Lastly, and this should be most important to you and your beloved Yankees: Bronson Arroyo has started 20 games this season and has given 22 home runs. At the new launching pad they've set up in New York, Bronson Arroyo will not have a good time.
In his career he has won double digit wins 5 times in his career, and 9 wins once. He has lost double digit losses 4 times, and 9 losses twice. His career ERA is 4.39, and that's not terrible. What is it this season? 5.21. Looks like things are going up in every way but the good way this year. Lastly, and this should be most important to you and your beloved Yankees: Bronson Arroyo has started 20 games this season and has given 22 home runs. At the new launching pad they've set up in New York, Bronson Arroyo will not have a good time.
Yeah i saw it on 2 good sites; rotoworld.com and mlbtraderumors.com . But i follow peter's blog, and it seems like this was just a rumor....
I am glad too.. The Yankees are scouting Cliff Lee.. thats what needs to happen, and I think it will happen.. they are just keeping it under wraps so that Boston won't fill the urge to counter it.
I could part with melky for lee, but gardner is hurt right now. But we could give Austin Jackson a chance, and we would have a terrible defensive outfield without melky. I'm willing to trade montero, he doesent impress me too much. I would give up Montero, Melky, and a loer level minor leaguer for lee
No, no, no, & no. Jesus Montero is a BEAST. Best prospect of ours.. with Posada being as old as he is we will need a replacement and Montero isn't that good defensively but is argueable better offensively then Matt Wieters (who people compare to Joe Mauer.)
well montero is hitting .309 in AA. Joe mauer is hitting .360 in the mlb lol, i think montero may be good but i dont see him being an elite catcher
, NY
, NY
were probably gonna need a 4, at least 1 time in the playoffs. We would also need a long man, maybe we make joba the long man (those are clutch situations most of the time in the playoffs) and leave hughes for the 8th
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